The last time I heard about the PVF, short for Philippine Volleyball Federation (formerly PAVA), on the news was when the Philippines almost got banned from hosting international volleyball events because PVF failed to settle its dues to the FIVB (Federation Internationale de Volleyball) when our country hosted a leg for the 2005 World Grand Prix. This was a long long time ago, so I think this issue has been settled already. PVF is known as the country’s governing body when it comes to volleyball.
Got this info from the rpspikers.tk forum website posted by stonecold316. Here’s the tournament info for the 2008 PVF Inter-Collegiate Volleyball tournament…
- 2008 PVF Inter-Collegiate Volleyball
May 17 to May 24
Venue: Philsport Arena, Pasig City
Free admission
(complete game schedule to follow soon)
Intense collegiate volleyball action heats up anew as the 2008 Philippine Volleyball Federation (PVF) Inter-Collegiate Volleyball Championship gets under underway on May 18, 2008 (Saturday) at the Philsports Arena in Pasig City.
Old rivals University of Santo Tomas (UST) Lady Spikers and nemesis De La Salle University (DLSU) Lady Archers relieve their rivalry as they face off at 2PM after the 1PM opening ceremonies.
In the men’s side, the University of East (UE) Red Warriors open its bid for a men’s crown as it square’s off against National College of Business Administration (NCBA).
The men’s division will be divided into three pools with Rizal Technological University (RTU), University of the East (UE), University of the Cordilleras and National College of Business Administration (NCBA) bracketed in Pool A; Emilio Aguinaldo College, Central Colleges of the Philippines (CCP), Philippine Women’s University (PWU) and Ateneo de Manila University bracketed in Pool B and Philippine Christian University (PCU), University of the Philippines (UP), Saint Louis University and Nueva Vizcaya State University bracketed in Pool C.
The women’s side, on the other hand, will be divided into two pools with Rizal Technological University (RTU), University of Santo Tomas (UST), University of the Cordilleras, De La Salle University (DLSU) and Saint Louis University bracketed in Pool A while Adamson University (ADU), University of the Philippines (UP), University of the East (UE), Philippine Christian University (PCU) and Philippine Women’s University (PWU) bracketed in Pool B.
According to Otie Camangian, PVF secretary general, the PVF tournament will have a total of four stages: the preliminaries, quarterfinals, semifinals and finals.
There will be a single round robin in the preliminary round for both the men’s and women’s division with the top eight teams in the men’s and women’s side advancing to the quarterfinal round. The number 1 team after the quarters will then face the number 8 seed, the number 2 facing the number 7 seed, the number 3 going up against the number 6 seed and the number 4 seed battling the number 5 seed.
The winners of the knock-out matches will then advance to the semifinal round in hopes of entering the finals of the tournament.
“There will only be one game in the semis with both winners advancing to the finals of the tournament. This rule will apply in both the men’s and women’s division,” Camangian said in a phone interview.
Camangian said aside from trophies, the champion teams in the men’s and women’s divisions will get P20, 000, the runner-ups P10, 000 and the third placer P5, 000.
The RP Youth Girl’s team mentored by Francis Vicente of UST will also take part in the tournament as a guest team, according to Camangian.
“The RP youth team will be there as part of their training in the coming National Youth Open in Manila this coming June and the Asian Youth Girls Championships that will also be held in Manila from October 11-18,” Camangian said.
He added that the PVF sanctioned tournament aims to promote the grassroots development program of volleyball in the country in hopes of identifying players that could be recruited in the national team that will compete in future international volleyball tournaments.
The defending champion in the women’s side is Adamson University while FEU, which is not taking part in this year’s tourney, the king in the men’s side.
The Antipolo Volleyball Association led by its president Gener Dungo, Antipolo City Mayor Victor Sumulong, PVF president Pete Mendoza, Philippine Sports Commission and Philippine Olympic Committee, are the organizers of the event with Mikasa as tournament sponsor.
Entrance to the venue will be free of charge. The tournament will run from May 17 to May 24.
- by stonecold316 of rpspikers.tk
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First match results :
DLSU def. UST (3-1) : 25-23, 22-25, 26-24, 35-33
Starters for DLSU :
Setter : CHARLEEN CRUZ
Middle Blocker 1 : JACQUELINE ALARCA
Open Hitter 1 : STEPHANIE MERCADO
Utility Spiker : CELINE ANNE HERNANDEZ
Middle Blocker 2 : MICHELLE PAULINE DATUIN
Open Hitter 2 : MANILLA SANTOS
Libero : REGINE DIEGO
Starters for UST :
Setter : RHEA KATRINA DIMACULANGAN
Open Hitter 1 : MA. ANGELI TABAQUERO
Middle Blocker 1 : HANNAH MANCE / AIZA MAIZO
Utility Spiker : AIZA MAIZO / VIDA RICCA GUTIERREZ
Middle Blocker 2 : MARY JEAN BALSE
Open Hitter 2 : VENUS BERNAL
Libero : MARI MICHELLE GRACE DEL ROSARIO
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Go Mojacko! Libero!! Moja Moja!!
Sana lang may TV coverage to..
Good to see Maizo and Gutierrez back in USTe’s line-up,
and Santos is back as open hitter!
Yey!
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sna nga may TV c0verage..
pra mpno0d k0 ulit maglr0 c angeli..
=)
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Onga!
hehe
sana matuloy kami ne beezy mamaya!!!!!
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PHOTOS FROM THE 1ST GAME AND THE OPENING CEREMONIES! FROM GEARHEAD, DONDI NOLASCO AND ME! ENJOY!
http://bartmike.multiply.com/photos/album/40/La_Salle_vs_UST_-_PVF_Intercollegiate_Volleyball_Tournament_-_May_17_2008
http://starshrek.multiply.com/photos/album/9/PVF_6th_Intercollegiate_Tournament_La_Salle-_UST_May_17_2008
http://gearhead000.multiply.com/photos/album/103/051708_-_Summer_Thirst_Quencher
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Bart, please inform Marc if you’re going to be posting more than three links sa comments next time ha. Automatic kasing pumupunta sa spam folder pag more than three links, akala ng wordpress spam. Sa Spam folder ko nakita etong comment mo, buti nalang nabasa ko muna bago idelete lahat.
Ay sorry…
No prob
I had to set limitations on link posting kasi, may mga spam na nakakalusot. This is actually one of the reasons why I’m transferring spikeithard to a new server, ang sama ng security netong old one.
Contributor status ka ano? I think it’s best na if you’re going to post anything, sa tuesday na para sure. Baka maiwan sa old server when we do the transfer.
Great photos!! Shet, sayang I wasn’t able to go with you guys. Maybe next time. Will find time to post selected shots and post it here sa Spikeithard.
waahhhaha. eric sorry nman.. may game ako mamaya.
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i said it’s ok… hehehe
sana ipost nyo din results ng games..tnx!
ilove u py…
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grabe nman 4th set nung lasalle ust.. 35 33 talaga? hehehe
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wala pa ding makaktalo sa UP-Ateneo first set nung UAAP season 69: 39-37 in favor of UP. Ayos diba dinoble ba yung set hehe.
hindi na si chie ang setter?
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^ @ Beezy : Yes 35-33 talaga yung 4th set… I thought UST will be winning that set and will be able to extend the match into a 5th set because they were able reach 24-20 score already but DLSU tough defense at the net and tough floor defense plus UST’s errors gave the match to DLSU
^ @ eriQ : Hindi na si Chie Saet ang setter ng DLSU… It’s now Charleen Cruz who plays as the starting setter… Occasionally, Ma. Klarissa Martinez comes in for Celine Hernandez at the back line and takes on the setting chores and Charleen Cruz is being turned into a Utility Spiker
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and here i am thinking na ittrain na si Celine Hernandez na setter. Hindi pala.
Sad. Tsaka mawawalan pa ng playing time si Martinez wawa naman.
napaka swerte naman ng Adamson sa pool B…
paki post naman po ng complete sked..
ui baka ito ung tournament na sinasabing sasali Adamson para di raw sila kalawangin….
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it is the right time for DLSU and UST para makiramdam sa laro ng FALCONS in prep for the UAAP’71…
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kelan next game ng ust?!
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Heres some choppy schedules:
May game ang DLSU at 1pm, May 19 (di ko alam kung sino kalaban) Venue: Either Brent or Philsports Arena…Tignan nyu na lang at magkatabi lang daw yang dalawa na lugar na yan!
Got this from Ballerz of RPSPIKERS.TK
UST’s Next Games:
Venue: RTU (Rizal Technological University) Gym, Mandaluyong
Tuesday (May 20): vs Saint Louis University (SLU) 11:30am
Wednesday (May 21): vs University of the Cordilleras (UC) 11:30am
Grabe hirap kumuha ng full schedule sa league na to!
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can we be informed of results of this event? maybe with a little description on the side? I am here in Bacolod, and you will be the only source of news regarding this event, sana ma televise din ito, maski quarterfinals nalang! SALAMAT.
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I think this one won’t be televised most likely. The PVF doesn’t have as much funding as Sports Vision (of Shakey’s V-League) sad to say.
But hey, at least it’s free to watch it live. And I heard the UST vs DLSU opening match was a classic!!! Did anyone bother to videotape that match and uploaded it on YouTube? Let us know, please please!!!
Paging PIZZA HUT V-GAMES… or GREENWICH V-TOUR? Sponsors anyone?
to onee…sana nga, mag sponsor naman ang pizza hut or greenwich, or any other…for the good of the sports. maybe the tv stations can also do their part by giving coverage for FREE? magdasal nalang tayo volleyball fans in the meantime, who knows. let us storm the heavens with prayers!!!
Yup,sana i post nila un game results or much better un team standing..
i think.. it will be ust vs dlsu sa finals.. astig.. paki upload naman sa youtube kung sino man meron.. pls pls pls..hehe
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densie tan isn’t playing? i wanna watch them play agen before i leave the country. huhu. but i think this site will keep me updated nmn khit na di ko mapapanood. hehe. how to go to philsports? and gameschedules pleasssssse anyone? ahihi.ü
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i saw the pics na. andun pla c tan. di lang ksli xa ksli sa fisrt 6. hahaha. sooo bad nmn. hmm
we now have the schedule.
http://rpspiker.proboards74.com/index.cgi?board=otherleague&action=display&thread=873&page=2
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How about the updates ng results? please pakipost naman
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AKALA KO PO BA MAGLALARO NA ULIT S UST TEAM C MABBAYAD?BKIT ALA CYA S LINE-UP SANA C MANCE TURUAN NG QUICK SET SAYANG ANG TANGKAD NYA KNG BLOCKINGS LANG CYA….GO UST…..
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may attitude problem si Mabbayad, so don’t expect her to return to UST. Yaan mo madami namanng matatangkad na recruit na pedeng turuan ng blocking. Si Mance, accdg to stonecold, nag-iimprove na daw.
SANA S COMING SHAKEYS SEASON 5 2ND CONFERENCE KASALI NA ANG UST TEAM..NAKAKA MISS CILA TALAGA
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hello sa lahat!!!
sa mga fans ni denise tan
post aman kayo d2 sa pinoyexchange thread nia
http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286325&page=47
heres the link..
meron din dun sa angeli
go UST!
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paki post naman ng line up ng ust sa pvf pls.. hehe.. tnx
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*from ballerz of rpspikers.tk:
UST-WVT Lineup
BALSE, Mary Jean
BENEDICTO, Gian Carla
BERNAL, Venus
CURATO, Jessica
CU, Melissa Mei
DEL ROSARIO, Marie Michelle Grace
DIMACULANGAN, Rhea Katrina
GONZALES, Jane
GUTIERREZ, Vida Rica
LAZARO, Kimberly
MAIZO, Aiza
MANCE, Hannah
ORTIZ, Micah
TABAQUERO, Ma. Angeli
TAN, Denise Patricia
(meron pa si Hang Jang ata yun :D)
Ang masasabi ko lang, Yay! sa pagbabalik ni Maizo at Gutierrez. Lalakas na ang blocking ng UST ulit. Obvious naman na nagpatalo sa kanila sa FEU ay yung banong blocking nila eh.
babalik p b c mabbayad sa ust? hehe
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Can you guyz upload some video of the La Salle’s Games????? thanks in advance
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also the results of the games!!!
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THE COMPLETE LINE-UP ng DLSU
1 - DIEGO, Regine
2 - MARTINEZ, Ma. Klarissa
3 - BARBOSA, Abigail
4 - MERCADO, Stephanie
5 - GOHING, Melissa
6 - ALARCA, Jacqueline
8 - LEPPING, Isabella
9 - HERNANDEZ, Celine Anne
10 - DATUIN, Michelle Pauline
11 - CRUZ, Charleen
12 - ZUNO, Emeli
14 - SANTOS, Manilla (Team Captain)
15 - CERVEZA, Elisa Camille
16 - LIM, Denise
wait wait wait!!! bakit nasa line-up ng DLSU si Mel Gohing? I though narecruit na siya ng ADMU? Atsaka magaling na na libero si Diego, does this mean na gagamitin siyang open spiker? Confusion…
thanks donlyone!!!!!!!! Wala pang RESULTS???!!!!
Melissa Gohing is already with DLSU… So far, salitan sina Gohing at Diego sa pagiging libero, but of course Diego is being utilized more often… Gohing usually comes in for Michelle Datuin at the backline for defense purposes, right after Datuin’s turn to serve, when is not being utilized as a libero…
For the results :
So far ADU and DLSU are both undefeated… I think ADU is rank number 1, because they haven’t dropped even a single set (Well, to think ang swerte nila dahil hindi naman ganon kalalakas ang mga kasama nila sa pool B)… DLSU is rank number 2, because they dropped a single set from UST and another single set from SLU…
Sa format ng tournament, imposibleng magkaharap ang ADU at DLSU unless they will be the two teams competing for the title… On the other hand, posibleng DLSU at UST ulit ang magharap the sa semi-finals…
Sayang naman si Mel, mas kailangan ng Ateneo ng libero kasi graduate na si Gabriel. Okay lang, may Stephanie Sison naman na pede maging libero.
sana nga sumali n ulit ang ust s 2nd conference ng shakeys v-league.. as well as dlsu.. kc ang pngit nman qng mgchchampion ang sscr or adu ng nde man lng dndethrown and ust champ or ang rival nilang dlsu.. mas exciting p an 2nd con, if they will join.. mgkakaalaman n ulit an feu at ust, dhil ang feu will have again but the tandem of gonzales-morada-daquis ay kayang tpatan ng doubleB ng ust(bernal&balse) plus the new tc , tabaquero.. idgdag p ang DoubleM.. maizo and mance.. bkit wla c torrijos?.. hmmm…
mgnda tlga qng ssli n cla..
ble
ust-feu-dlsu-admu(+em-orn)-adu(if so will comeback)-sscr(qng andun pdin c ‘bowlee’haha.. and roces)-lyceum.
isa p pla! i hope qng bmlik man ang ust sa vleague pra bawiin ang ipphram nilang korona this 1st con, sana bmlik din s knla c suzzane roces…
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at siyempre kung ganyang ang analogy, ‘ipinahiram’ din ng USTe ang championship sa La Salle noong 3rd Season, 1st Conference?
(1) pagdating ng 2nd conf, Bernal and Balse would no longer be a part of the UST line-up (per the UAAP roster; Bernal already in her fifth year while Blase, though only in her fourth, is waaay older than 25) so they are no longer eligible to play as regular players. They can still play as GPs, though. Yun nga lang, kung 1 GP lang ang papayagan, they would have trouble in choosing between the double B and Roces. Same thing with Jackie So and Serafica na ineligible na come 2nd conference.
(2) Graduate na si Chel, so unless mag-masteral siya di na siya makakapaglaro sa UAAP/V-League. So is Torrijos, who is already in her fifth year of eligebility anyway.
(3) Wala pa ding makakatalo sa orig na double M, Maizo and Mabbayad. Sila nagpalakas ng blocking ng UST. Nakakapanghinayang talaga si Mabbayad.
(4) Bualee po hindi Bowlee
yah!!! tama nga naman!!! mganda talaga kng b2lk n ang mga tigre sa su22nod n con!! diba!! kz dun s machamp nagaun pra clng sumugod sa kingdom na alang king… prng wlang kelangang i-dethrone!!
and mas mgnda ngamnood kz mkikita na ntin kng anong klaseng revenge ang gagawin ng UST sa feU…
hey. im one of the players so i know who won. hehehe.
here’s the winning teams.
3rd place: University of The East
2nd place: De La Salle University
1st place: Adamson University
CHAMPION: University of Sto. Tomas
it was a great game. the championship game was the best.
it was great playing with you guys. :]]
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12????!!!
venus kaw ba yan??
kaw yan nohhh!!!
basta UST khit ano png ending lging mgnda ang gme!!! kip on smling guys!!
CONGRATULATIONS TO UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS FOR WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP
WOMEN’S DIVISION AWARDEES :
CHAMPION : UNIVERSITY OF SANTO TOMAS
FIRST RUNNER-UP : ADAMSON UNIVERSITY
SECOND RUNNER-UP : DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY-MANILA
THIRD RUNNER-UP : UNIVERSITY OF THE EAST
INDIVIDUAL AWARDEES :
BEST ATTACKER : VENUS BERNAL (University of Santo Tomas)
BEST BLOCKER : RISSA JANE LAGUILLES (Adamson University)
BEST SERVER : MA. ANGELI TABAQUERO (University of Santo Tomas)
BEST SETTER : JANET SERAFICA (Adamson University)
BEST LIBERO : LIZLEE ANNE GATA (Adamson University)
BEST RECEIVER : MANILLA SANTOS (De La Salle University-Manila)
MOST VALUABLE PLAYER : MARY JEAN BALSE (University of Santo Tomas)
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wow! the UST fans have something to cheer about once more! congrats to the Lady Tigers…
@donlyone: thanks for the info dude!
galing talaga ni angge!!! syang di ko sya napanood ba naman oh!!! kasi dapat may cd ang mga laban ng UST… pde ba yun sa wide screen..
waaa!! I’m so happy for the tigresses!!
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sino po may alam ng scores?!
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any pics from adu-ust game?!
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I was there at the site covering the entire tournament as my article in our school publication, and I believed… and perhaps I am not mistaken, It was held at the RTU gym in Mandaluyong, and not in Pasig, as what you’ve mentioned.
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wow galing po ng ust team….kudos to all team
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Hey, I’m just confused, First,the venue was incorrect
and then the schools who participated in this event were incomplte.
I thought Perpetual was there, well in fact they fought with RTU for a semis- berth last friday. coz I was there…
Were the things listed here were all factual???
Just wonderin… tnx.
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@TANJO: As stated in the blog post, I just lifted all this info from another volleyball forum. I did try to email the PVL organizers but got no response. So there’s really no way I was able to verify this info, sorry…
It doesn’t matter now since this tourney has ended. Sayang, I didn’t have time to watch a game nga eh.
Now since, you covered it, do you mind sharing your info/thoughts to Spikeithard!!
Just shoot me an email, thanks.
congrats UST! GO Thomasians!
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ngek tapos na pala to! manonood pa man din sana ako! hahaha
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age?it doesn’t matter really.k fine you can post anyone but don’t forget my idol(RACHELLE ANN DAQUIS) OK friends. may all our idols make their way to the edge as long there’s fairness and sport”woman”ship kkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PEACE IN GUYS!!!!
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did you read my post? per the UAAP rules, anyone who had played for 5 years or older than 25 cannot play anymore. So in this respect, AGE DOES MATTER.
Si Chel yeah let’s hope she would decide to continue playing.
Hey! how about the men’s division? RTU MVT won the crown.( of course with the absence of the powerhouse teams from FEU and UST) Sayang, its time for RTU ( SCUAA-NCR Men’s Volley champion, LASUC and PASUC national over all champion, UNIGAMES third placer) to show their worth why they were crowned as champions, and to show that they can fight the likes of the UAAP calibers. Sayang tlga, I’m looking forward p nmn with their game with UST, to whom they bowed in the first round of the last PVF tournament.
Can anyone tell me why FEU men’s team did’nt participate in the recently concluded PVF?
lastly, Can anyone give me the meaning of PRISAA? in which UST MVT won the title?
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kelan po ba ang su22nod na con ng v-league? and ksli n b dun ang UST? sna nmn po very soon na kz gus2 q na ulet mkita c angge mglro at mmewng!!!
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jzt wnt ask if sa su2nod na UAAP ksli pa si Venus at ging?? ksli pa b cla?? o cna ANgge at denise na lng ang mgd2la sa USt?? no matter wat mgling p din cla 4 sure!!!
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d na po cla kasali!
go USTE and DLSU!
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1.Cnoh po c Hang Jang?
2.Hndi n po b ba2lik c Lilet Mabbayad at Cherry Ann Balse? Sayang. Magaling p nmn c ate lilet sa pagblock. At c cherry nmn, hndi nmn talaga xa ganon kagaling pero BALSE sya kaya expect more from her.
3.Hindi na po b ksali c ate bernal at balse sa UAP 71?
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sa nagcomment ng age doesn’t matter…I’m sorry it does matter in the UAAP. as i’ve said, ineligible na si balse kahit na fourth playing yaer pa lang niya because she’s already 25 years old by the next UAAP Season. Okay?
So Vhen ay tapos na ang playing years, ikalima na niya this Season 71.
Si Lilet Mabbayad ay may attitude problem. As with Abanto, inconsistent siya sa attendance ng practice.
Si Cherry Anne Balse diba na sa Davao na siya?
C Hang Jang ay Korean na recruit.
Yun lang po.
hmm… gnun b.. teka anung ngyri pnu npnta sa battle for 3rd nlng ang dlsu? e db ntlo nila ang ust se elims? or bka sa crossover semis npbgsk cla ng adamson? while cnipa ng ust ang ue s crossover.. tma b?..
hmm.. sna kunin ng ust c balse as GP.. no ofens to bernal.. npkgling nia.. kxo c balse kc mas mcpag.. and i hope maging consistent n c tabaquero,, gnda p namn icgaw ng ‘tabaquero’ kapg nkkpag spike xa.. haha.. sana tlga mkpg spike xa.. para mpkita nia ky morada qng cnu ang mas mgling.. haha.. may npnood kc aq sa youtube.. tnmaan ni daquis sa muka c tan.. pero nag apologize agd c daquis.. pero ng c morada ang nktama s muka ni tbaquero.. prang wla lng s knya.. uhmp…
sana sa 71st season ng uaap.. ust-feu ang mgtapat sa mens at womens volleyball championship.. hehe**
and mbwi sna ng gawi ang cheerdance crown..
well thomasians let us suppport the whole representatives of ust sa uaap.. july5.. ang openning.. and ue-ust ang main game! c u there!
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okei lng sna n mpnta ung title s ibng team.. kxo mybng ung ibng team pg nananlo.. nde nman lahat pero ung ibng players..like segodine of admson.. morada ang cfranca of feu.. ei nga pla ang gnda ng pnpkta ni nerizza bautista GP of adu.. galing xang ust.. syang.. triple B sna ang pagpplian ng ust as GP..hehe
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@ronron si issa bautista galing ust pero as guest player lang.just clearing things up kasi baka akalain ng iba ust student sya.
@rieze lilet has had some issues but don’t just say that she has an attitude problem.masyado lang negative.besides,she’s back with ust and the fans have welcomed her back.
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ah..okei..yep i already saw lilet mabbayad sa educ nung feb cguro.. blik ust wvt n b xA?.. dpat cguro kunin n xa ng wvt at pngralan nlng nila kc kelangan din nila serbixo nia.. hmm…
nsn nb c coach august? asa hospital pdin b xA?.. hmm
sna sa 2nd conference kxli n sa v-league ang ust.. hmm wla lng.. pra mas mgnda laban.. i mean.. kc and adamson, ssc-r, Lpu, ateneo predicatble n ppxok sa final 4 e.. mas mgnda curo qng andun ang dlsu at ust pra mgnda ang laban.. hmm..
***.. si Laguilles of Adamson ang tingin qng npka bait.. kc dlwang beses q ng nppnood xa n may tntmaan sa muka.. and yet nagsosorry agd xa bngo mkpag apiran sa mga kateam8s nia s tuwa.. knina nkita q tnmaan nia s muka c charo soriano of ateneo.. ngsorry agd xa..
d tulad ni morada,segodine and cafranca.. nagyayabang agad..
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ei..late na pewo agree ako sau dyn ah..kta ko un andun ako sa arena nun!!!..pati nun ntamaan ni morada c tabaquero sa muka dun sa ateneo gym nun..alang sowi sowi apir na agad!!!..well anyway kanya2 lng yan..db?
lumakas na si tabaquero ulit sa pvf na yun. kase humina sya sa uaap e. may shoulder injury dn kase sya. ung mga palo nya sa uaap parang lagay lagay lang. hnde baon. nung sa pvf lumkaas na ule palo nya. sana gnon lagi.
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